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Look at me guys, actually entering a [ profile] picspammy challenge! The very last day! Ahem. I wanted to do something Lost-related, since it is the Fandom of My Heart and no more so than right now in the throes of its last season. Originally, I planned on doing something Juliet-related, but most of the ideas seemed to be taken. Then I considered "Top 5 Juliet crack!ships", but realized that most of them would involve explaining who the characters were and why I found them interesting enough to pair with her. Then I realized that what I really wanted to do was expound upon the characters who didn't get enough love... thus... this idea. My top five "supporting" Lost characters.

Secondary or supporting characters in expansive works have always been an interest of mine. They're usually included to move the plot along, or spell out a theme for the audience; but sometimes they can exceed their role and become scene-stealers interesting enough to rival the primary stars. Part of that is 'cause of the actors: no matter how talented you are, if you're not young/sexy/marketable you end up doing a lot of supporting work - just see Terry O'Quinn and Michael Emerson's pre-Lost filmographies. And part of it is 'cause the show's production team have more freedom writing them, and I think they take the opportunity to write a character who isn't wrapped up in manpain/angst/convoluted storylines and roll with it. But maybe the most fascinating thing is that we know so little about these characters. Often, they show up with only half-explained motives and are either killed off before we get to know them or disappear into the writers' box of plot devices. Instead of being annoying, as these circumstances would be with a purported main character (cough, Libby) it only makes them more ~intriguing.

Lost is, to put it mildly, an expansive work, and it's got no lack of supporting actors: on the island, in flashbacks, in flash-forwards, and in altered timelines. With a few Bai Ling-shaped exceptions, I'd say they've done a damn good job of casting these characters and using them to augment the primary storylines. Some of these characters, especially the ones who have been around for a while, appeared enough and accrued enough goodwill from fans to basically be primary characters: Danielle, Rose & Bernard, and Richard (who actually became a main character) come to mind. However I wanted to cover the five characters I love who are probably a "huh? oh, him/her" to the casual fan. Despite not having their own storylines and flashbacks, they all made the show that much more interesting for their presence.

The Marshal

Let's get the ball rolling with a character who's intrigued me since episode one: Edward Mars. Part of that is because I have a HUGE thing for this straight-shooting "always gets his (wo)man" Eliot Ness crimefighting archetype (ask me about US ATTORNEY PATRICK FITZGERALD~ sometime), but also: dude! He tracked Kate everywhere. He tracked her to AUSTRALIA. I'm certain we'll never get full closure on this, but there are so many unanswered questions about why the hell he went through so much trouble just to catch a one-time criminal. And boy did he go through trouble. Even more curiously, he offered to end his crusade if Kate really could settle down with Nathan Fillion. We all know how that worked out (not so good), but hell if it wasn't another interesting aspect of one of Lost's more morally ambiguous supporting characters.


Part of my appreciation for this character is the fact that she's played by Kim Dickens, a woefully underrated actress who really needs to appear in more things. But I also love how she was sort of Kate 1.0 for Sawyer. As far as we can tell, she was the first woman who Sawyer worked with, and who made a formidable foil. Granted, he took advantage of her and left her -- but she got him back by getting his ass in the clink. Hee hee. I also love that she and Kate bonded before and after the crash. Besides doing their part to make "Left Behind" the Slashiest Episode Ever, their similarities made her the perfect person to exposit on Sawyer/Kate's relationship in "Whatever Happened, Happened".

(Sidenote: since I've just covered Cassidy & the marshal, let me point out that since no one knows how she tracked down Sawyer, my personal canon is totally that the two of them hooked up and went on the chase together for a while.)


You know what I said about moral ambiguity? Weeeeeell sometimes you just need a complete monster, and I love that they had a character who was unambiguously straight-up no-bullshit shoot-a-teenage-girl kicking-puppies stealing-candy-from-babies EVIL. By the time he met his end on the wrong side on a dagger courtesy one raging Ben Linus, it was hard not to wonder what the hell took so long. That said, there are two things that make him one of my favorite minor characters: one, this more-than-slightly amazing fanfic, which manages to flesh out his character while also making him remain pretty damn scary (so go read it) (seriously) and two, dat body. unf, you guys. unf.


Aww I love Naomi. Gone too soon! I love how she had this outer shell of cute spunkiness concealing her cutthroat special ops side. And much as "Henry Gale"'s debut in Season 2 began a new chapter of the show where people yelling at each other about buttons gave way to mythology about four-toed statues and our introduction to the creepos who stole Walt, so did Naomi's appearance herald the moment that Lost stopped futzing around and started getting ~real~ as we realized that holy shit they're actually gonna get home, what. Would have been nice to get more backstory as her double-death (knifed in the back by Locke... but she still jumped Kate after falling out of a tree!), but aside from her few outside world appearances, there's very little we know about her. Who knows what she was truly like? Unless she makes a surprise season 6 appearance, we can only speculate.


Because he is an indestructible vaguely-Soviet eyepatched cat-owning gymnastics-appreciating killing machine. What the hell more do you WANT? If you didn't fall in love at first sight, I don't know what to tell you. If you don't love this character, I judge you. IDK what Darlton say, I believe that after being zapped til his brain bleeds, beat up by Jin, beat up by Locke, shot with a harpoon, and blowing himself up with a grenade to kill Charlie (woot), he is alive and well somewhere. And totally plotting his evil revenge. Unlike Naomi I really want no more of his backstory. He needs no characterization. He just needs to go and kill more useless characters while getting beat up a lot. Know why? Because he's Patchy.

Date: 2010-02-28 05:43 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile]
This is totally made of win. Lost has awesome secondary characters. :D (And I love your theory about Cassidy and the marshal.)

Date: 2010-02-28 07:48 pm (UTC)
ext_44710: (¤ wait for the cream >:)
From: [identity profile]
ty! I kind of want to write a fanfic about it but I am so bad at finishing stories, hahahaa :D:

Date: 2010-02-28 05:49 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile]
I think its sexist of me that I agree with all these except the women characters. LOL.

Or its because they suck at writing compelling women. Except for Jules. But thats another example of an actor or actress on Lost carrying dialogue and character development. I thought Cassidy was atrocious. Maybe its that 'girl gab' time was just way too cheesy and lame for Lost. It was as if the writers didn't know how to write women so they watched Lifetime for a few hours. But I'll take your word for it, maybe it was well done. My male side just sees that and has the instinct of leaving the room.

Naomi was just a case of a bad actress. Her character had the writing to be cool.

Patchy HAS to come back. It would be so awesome if he just pops up and knocks some character out and gives some quippy line.

Date: 2010-02-28 07:48 pm (UTC)
ext_44710: (♪ the greates)
From: [identity profile]
Aww how can you hate Cassidy? (side note... have you watched Deadwood? If you haven't. You absolutely MUST. I am forcing you right now, you would love it.) You didn't hate her with Sawyer though right? RIGHT?

Naomi was cute, you're just a h8r :P

lmao imagine if Patchy was like the president of some Eastern European country in the flash-sideways. I'd die tbh.

Date: 2010-02-28 08:30 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile]
I liked her in The Long Con because she was quick and called Sawyer on his shit. She was like a less retarded version of Kate. Lets be honest, as much as Kate can kick ass, use guns, and be a mommy -- she's flat out stupid most of the time. So seeing her Cassidy be a refreshing, more intelligent, version of Kate was nice to see. Plus there was something more likable about how it wasn't as superficial and shallow as his relationship with Kate. Cassidy is kinda cute, but definitely not hot. So I thought that was an interesting look at Sawyer. That he can fall for someone and she doesn't have to be gorgeous.

I guess you're right, it was a expository character. Sawyer jumping from the chopper was the same as him conning Cassidy. He didn't want that relationship with either of those women. Or it just didn't feel right to him. However when it was Julesus, he was ready to marry her and spend the rest of his days with her in Otherton. I like that Kate's choice gave Sawyer the upperhand at least. I thought for the entire series he was going to get dogged after all that emasculating pining he did in S3. But seeing him find his true love with Jules and giving Kate that definite message of "Never gonna happen" made me gain back a lot of respect for Sawyer.

Patchy is going to own a bed and breakfast with Charlie and Desmond.

Date: 2010-02-28 06:52 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile]

I agree so much.

Secondary characters are just so much more interesting than the main characters. Take Keamy for an example, um I hate him (lol) but I'd totally be more interested in his story than any other main characters (not that we need to no more about them) and this includes Naomi. I agree with Patchy though, he doesn't need a back story. Right now he just needs to show up and kill everyone and by everyone, I mean everyone in the temple. :P

Lovely picspam by the way! One of the best ones I've seen so far. I want to do the next challenge as long as it's interesting.

Date: 2010-02-28 07:49 pm (UTC)
ext_44710: (Default)
From: [identity profile]
thank youuuu btw I'm about to post a hilarious anti-Perriello screed I found. It's almost on par with the Lady GaGa = Illuminati theories.

Date: 2010-02-28 08:00 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile]
lol oh lord. lulz_p or ontd_p?

Date: 2010-02-28 08:16 pm (UTC)
ext_44710: (Default)
From: [identity profile]
lulz_p, I don't think it's ~notable enough for ontd_p. It's just funny.

Date: 2010-02-28 08:32 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile]
Just to warn you, succubuslove138 made a post in ontd_p and it's the same user that trolled their ontd post with that scary boob pic. I'd keep an eye on that post.

lulz_p needs more post anyways so yay :D

Date: 2010-02-28 09:00 pm (UTC)
ext_44710: (Default)
From: [identity profile]
oooh ty.

Date: 2010-02-28 07:02 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile]
KEAMY! omg, unf³ srsly.

all your choices are A+.

Date: 2010-02-28 07:50 pm (UTC)
ext_44710: (' fml.)
From: [identity profile]
ikr. he was so evil-hot.

Date: 2010-02-28 07:04 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile]
I don't watch Lost (except for this season premiere, ruining it for my dad by asking wtf was going on) but this is so pretty :D

Date: 2010-02-28 07:50 pm (UTC)
ext_44710: (@ bad people.)
From: [identity profile]
ahaha it's so confusing even if you watch the show but don't pay close attention, idek what it's like to watch it without any knowledge of what's happening. But it's such a pretty show. :D

Date: 2010-02-28 07:07 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile]
I adore all 5 of those characters! Great picspam!

Date: 2010-02-28 07:50 pm (UTC)
ext_44710: (¶ REPRESENT YO SHIT <)
From: [identity profile]
Thank you! :D

Date: 2010-02-28 07:17 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile]
This picspam is amazing.

Keamy was one of my favorites by far, he was brilliant. Not that I agree with his crazy but Kevin Durand is such a talented actor and that fic you linked to is one of my favorite Lost fics. I'm such a Keamy stan because I can't stand the hate, even though usually I just shrug it off when it comes to other characters, lol. I highly approve of this! Also everyone else too, of course. God, I love this show.

Date: 2010-02-28 07:53 pm (UTC)
ext_44710: (' bitches don't know bout my hat rack)
From: [identity profile]
I love that fic. I keep pushing it on people. "YES IT'S SLASH. YES IT'S NC-17. JUST READ IT AND SKIP OVER THE SEXY PARTS YOU PRUDE." I love how Kevin Durand is in all these B-movies now. He gets my supporting actor Seal of Approval.

ugggh I love it too, for all its stories and flaws and awesomeness and huge mythology and just HOW am I gonna survive when it's done? Man.

Date: 2010-02-28 07:22 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile]
DUDE, agree so much. They're all badass and fascinating in their own ways (and I hear we're seeing Keamy again, yay!). It's a shame it's so easy to get killed on this show, because we might have gotten to know some of these people better...but maybe that's the fun. Great spam!

Date: 2010-02-28 07:55 pm (UTC)
ext_44710: (Default)
From: [identity profile]
MORE KEAMY *___* oh man I can't wait

Ahaha I seem to have a thing for shows where (dun dun dun) ANYONE CAN DIE!!! and it's always sad to see a good character get kicked off. Then again, on Lost, death is no obstacle to further appearances... Ethan has been on the show more times post-mortem than pre-. :D

Date: 2010-02-28 07:43 pm (UTC)
ext_10249: (otp adorable)
From: [identity profile]
Oh my god, this is so gorgeous even though I only recognize a couple of them from my early "Lost"-watching days. KIM DICKENS LOVE.

Date: 2010-02-28 07:55 pm (UTC)
ext_44710: (' own every bell that tolls for me)
From: [identity profile]

Lost is a ridiculously gorgeous show period. You gotta WORK to make it look ugly. I should know, I did for an icon challenge once and it kept turning out half-decent. :P

Date: 2010-02-28 07:51 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile]
I love this spam so much! It's always great to see secondary characters get a little fandom love. :D

Date: 2010-02-28 07:56 pm (UTC)
ext_44710: (' hittin' switches in my black 6-4)
From: [identity profile]
Thanks! I think that secondary characters always need more appreciation. :D

Date: 2010-02-28 08:14 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile]




Date: 2010-02-28 08:17 pm (UTC)

Date: 2010-02-28 08:29 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile]
OMG! PATCHY!1!!1 He IS so badass. I feel so much love for him. Plus..he has an eyepatch.

I really want no more of his backstory
You will never know it anyways. He has killed everyone from his past.

Date: 2010-02-28 08:57 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile]
I really want to see all these people in the flash sideways. Especially Mikhail and Keamy. We have already seen Edward Mars, but knowing his dogged pursuit of Kate, he's not done yet. Which leads me to something I never quite understood. Why can't Kate settle down with Nathan Fillion? I mean, it's Nathan Fillion. c'mon. I guess perhaps destiny's (or Jacob's) pull was too great.

Date: 2010-02-28 09:44 pm (UTC)
ext_16618: ([Lost] It worked)
From: [identity profile]
THIS THIS THIS OMGGGGGG. First of all, I'm a big fan of Fred Lehne to begin with. He's a FANTASTIC actor, really underrated and I always loved his pursuit of Kate even though I know we'll never know just why he was indeed so fascinated with catching her.

And also all the rest, too. I love how intricate the stories are and everything ties together. Oh, Lost, you do it so well. And your coloring on these is astound along with the caps you chose and your little summaries. A+!

Date: 2010-02-28 10:26 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile]
Patchy definitely needs to be back. And I love how you bring the marshal to my attention, I kind of want more there, too. I never managed to like Cassidy or Naomi much, though.

Date: 2010-02-28 11:45 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile]
PATCHY!!!! ♥♥♥

love all your other choices, specially the Marshall...

BUT YA KNOW BB!! PATCHY IS OUR SEXY SOVIET KILLING MACHINE ♥ and I looooooooove to see that capture of Jin kicking his ass because that's maybe my favourite Lost scene EVAH xD


AND your "woot" at Charlies death makes me so happy I can't contain myself...


Date: 2010-02-28 11:53 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile]
AWESOME SPAM HERE. I almost always love the secondary characters, so I just love the idea behind this picspam :D:D

I have a HUGE thing for this straight-shooting "always gets his (wo)man" Eliot Ness crimefighting archetype (ask me about US ATTORNEY PATRICK FITZGERALD~ sometime), hehe But, you know, I agree. Always liked him.

Keamy was bad ass, but I think I really hated him.

Really liked Naomi (or maybe the actress?), very disappointed that they didn't really do much with her. And I think there was some about Patchy that constantly cracked me up.

And OMFG, I cannot, CANNOT, for the life of me remember Cassidy. Vague recognition, but damn.

Date: 2010-03-01 01:36 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile]
So, I totally don't even watch this show but your preview was so pretty and so I wanted to see the rest of the spam aaaand it's gorgeous! :)

Date: 2010-03-01 03:06 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile]
Lovely picspam.

Edward Mars and Martin Keamy are those glorious slimeballs without which no good TV show is complete.

Date: 2010-03-01 08:02 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile]
Patchy! Keamy! (omg dat bod, whoda thunk?!) I completely agree with all your choices. Naomi took a while to grow on me but in the end, I liked her, and was all sad when she died. Her backstory, I need it. (along with Patchy's and Keamy's plzkthnx)

Amazing picspam!

Date: 2010-03-03 01:10 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile]
excellent - love it. :D (although minus Naomi and her INCREDIBLY FRUSTRATING FRINGE!! and add in Ana Lucia and we've got a deal ;))

Date: 2010-04-03 06:06 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile]
Haha, love this.
Naomi is so cute.
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